scandal, not on benghazi. unclear whether or not he will take questions. stay tuned at 6:00 p.m. right after "the five." the president will speak. what was your point? >> i was going to say, when your defense is something that happened a long time ago, you're guilty. >> that's u like when you cheat -- >> yeah, when you're innocent and somebody says, you did something wrong, you go, hell, no, i'm innocent. you don't go, it happened a long time ago. if somebody gets you on something and you reference in the context of time, you're guilty. the other thing, too, is obama is in a really weird state. if he didn't claim that it was terrorism and blamed a video, that's a mistake. if he claimed it was terrorism and then went fund-raising, that's a mistake. he's got the emotions of a country bear jamboree. >> they needed to cover up the terrorist angle of this because they were in the middle of a campaign -- >> that's scandal!